well this is a cool project by @fishinthecalculator ! aims to combine guix, goblins, and hoot to make a yunohost-like application. https://fishinthecalculator.me/fortino.html
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@dthompson This is the grail of declarative configuration, to me. Well done, @fishinthecalculator!
@civodul@dthompson@fishinthecalculator a cheap self-hosted mail server, chat server, and mailing list server as a service is something people need.
@pjotrprins Do they? Whoever self-hosts still has to deal with server maintenance. Spam, DOS attacks, etc. Are there really so many people who can deal with that but are not self-hosting because software installation and updates are holding them back?
@khinsen@civodul@dthompson@fishinthecalculator no one said it was easy. I am running mail servers since 1998 or so ;). But we sure can make it easier, especially with a VPS provider.
@pjotrprins I am all for it! I am just wondering where the bottlenecks are in practice. My own self-hosting experiments all ended when I was fed up with looking at server logs to diagnose various failures or attacks.
@khinsen That’s the goal of projects like YunoHost: making self-hosting feasible for someone who doesn’t have a PhD in GNU/Linux/Postfix/nginx/whatever sysadmin nor the will to invest large amounts of time in day-to-day maintenance.
