Hello Fedi friends!

My decision to upload the Fedi promo video to YouTube 2 weeks ago was really controversial.

@randahl posted a nice message about the video & encouraged his followers to like / comment on it so the YouTube algorithm would serve it to more people. He was inundated by hostile comments for days. Sorry Randahl!

Well, exhibit A of why this was a good decision in hindsight (see pic).

How else are people going to hear about the Fediverse?

As always, thanks for the support ❤️

@_elena @randahl

This is a good philosophic question, that could be at the 'bac' exam in France: up to what point shall you go to promote your ideas?

Why promoting your ideas on a media you are attacking is OK and why isn't it OK?

Up to what point shall you not accept it?

Is that right then to insult the author?

Why hate is promoted on GAFAM social network?

And so on and so on.

I don't have answer regarding if its right or not. You haven't done nothing illicit, but against the principles you promote.

Only if the benefit is bigger than the cost, you will be right, won't you?

Whatever, chating about it is OK. Insulting obviously not.

By the way, your video is WONDERFUL.

❤️

@_elena @randahl I agree

YouTube is not without its problems but that is exactly why this video needs to be there

The majority of people that you're trying to reach are on the big tech platforms

Most people don't use alternatives because they aren't aware that there are alternatives

Uploading to YT was the best way to get the message out and never feel bad about other peoples inability to see that

You're doing great work here

@_elena

Old story. But when I read these things, I feel bad, because some of my friends who had joined that social network naively, throw that story in my face.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159155131503960&id=73465013959&set=a.10150147857603960

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@_elena posting on YT is not good or bad decision, it's medium that we can share. Bad if you see it problems, but still easy and available to most people... Heck TV's have YT merged in so YT is your to go instead of cable.
Talking about fediverse outside fedi also important. Recently have someone in discord for gacha game I play asked, Mastodon? I heard about it two years ago! It's still alive?
You can correlate big movements (Reddit API/X shitshow) and talk about fediverse or uptick in Users
@_elena @randahl

There are lots of intelligent people in the Fediverse. Unfortunately, they are not always socially smart. I wonder if being excluded (or self-excluded) from 'normal' society makes them unaware of how things work for 'normal' people. The lack of empathy, coupled with not receiving feedback from 'normal' people (because the Fediverse is a bubble), means they miss a lot of things.

I'm all for using bad platforms to talk about the good ones to bring more people here. 👍

@_elena @randahl

That's so disappointing to hear. Sorry you had a bad experience.

No one should be attacking you for raising awareness for the open social web outside of its current shape. Like you said, how else would we grow this space?

We've experienced similar things in the past, so if you ever want advise (or to rant), the Newsmast team will always be a happy ear.

Now going to leave a positive comment on the video 🧡

@_elena I wonder why this would be controversial... how else would you reach people outside of the Fediverse besides sharing it on Social Media platforms that aren't the Fediverse?
And YouTube is clearly one of them, just with the difference that you share videos there.
There should just be a link to the Peertube video or other ways to access the Fediverse in the description imho

@_elena@mastodon.social @randahl@mastodon.social I find it's great to post things on the central platforms as long as it's a few things;

  1. A few days / hours late (and you say you can find it quicker on here)
  2. It's pure promo content for the Fediverse and what we do on here, Like you said "How else are people meant to know about it"

There's probably a few other reasons such as being a business makes sense, but adopting the Fedi First Goal is a good idea for people who NEED to use these other platforms.