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@civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr @khinsen@scholar.social @pjotrprins@mastodon.social @dthompson@toot.cat I think this is pretty much the point. To self host complex software stacks there will be always some kind of technical knowledge requirements, even stuff we might consider easy (such as the concept of domain names and DNS).

The point of projects like Fortino and Yunohost is to lower the bar as much as possible, in your example one could maybe look at logs through a web interface instead of having to grep stuff around.

In my experience there is a set of small organizations that have a strong need for a self managed infrastructure, maybe because they are climate justice orgs doing civil disobedience or labor unions, but for many reasons they struggle to keep volounteer highly technical people engaged enough to have a sustainable quality of service. So they end up using Big Tech, not because they want but because the tech usability bar is too high

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[@civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr](https://toot.aquilenet.fr/users/civodul) [@khinsen@scholar.social](https://scholar.social/users/khinsen) [@pjotrprins@mastodon.social](https://mastodon.social/users/pjotrprins) [@dthompson@toot.cat](https://toot.cat/users/dthompson) I think this is pretty much the point. To self host complex software stacks there will be always some kind of technical knowledge requirements, even stuff we might consider easy (such as the concept of domain names and DNS).
The point of projects like Fortino and Yunohost is to lower the bar as much as possible, in your example one could maybe look at logs through a web interface instead of having to grep stuff around.
In my experience there is a set of small organizations that have a strong need for a self managed infrastructure, maybe because they are climate justice orgs doing civil disobedience or labor unions, but for many reasons they struggle to keep volounteer highly technical people engaged enough to have a sustainable quality of service. So they end up using Big Tech, not because they want but because the tech usability bar is too high