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@nixCraft@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago

they used AI to uppercase text? lol.

A Reddit post titled "Wow... we've been burning money for 6 months." The post's author, u/me_z, describes how their company's OpenAI usage was costing around $1200 a month. They are using GPT-4 for simple tasks like extracting phone numbers, checking for profanity, reformatting JSON, and uppercasing text. The author ends by asking, "Am I an idiot? How much are you guys spending?"
A Reddit post titled "Wow... we've been burning money for 6 months." The post's author, u/me_z, describes how their company's OpenAI usage was costing around $1200 a month. They are using GPT-4 for simple tasks like extracting phone numbers, checking for profanity, reformatting JSON, and uppercasing text. The author ends by asking, "Am I an idiot? How much are you guys spending?"
A Reddit post titled "Wow... we've been burning money for 6 months." The post's author, u/me_z, describes how their company's OpenAI usage was costing around $1200 a month. They are using GPT-4 for simple tasks like extracting phone numbers, checking for profanity, reformatting JSON, and uppercasing text. The author ends by asking, "Am I an idiot? How much are you guys spending?"
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@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 months ago
@nixCraft Like you can literally capitalize any string of text by hitting Shift-F3 in Word. LOL.
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@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 months ago
@nixCraft Nothing like a simple deterministic pure function that occasionally hallucinates and can be tricked into deleting your database through insistent pleading.
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Utopiah (Fabien Benetou)
Utopiah (Fabien Benetou)
@utopiah@mastodon.pirateparty.be replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 months ago
@nixCraft what's bonkers are replies :

- "literally could have just asked GPT for a regex search"
- "Why don't you ask ChatGPT to write a python programme for you to automate that?"
- "Why use ai to upper case things? Literally a second to write that in code."

... like, have they even used a text editor? You do no need any coding for this kind of tasks. A basic text editor or spreadsheet can do all that. Somehow trying to anyway use the tool they so desperately want to find useful STILL claws back its way despite them criticizing OP for inefficiency.

It's nuts.

They love their hammer so much, I don't get it.

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@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft wait till he figures out that open source models have similar performance XD
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Renn Kane
Renn Kane
@dolfsquare@tooting.intensifi.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft all of these use cases are literally coding exercises you could get in a college CS course, what the hell 💀
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mikeTesteLinuxQlub
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@mikeTesteLinuxQlub@qlub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Genius that guy, saving so much, he deserve a promotion ^^
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aerique
aerique
@aerique@genart.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago

And instead of using a library for "the dumb stuff" they opted for going with a cheaper model 😂

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Ankit Sharma
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@nezubn@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft is it for real?
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@vascorsd@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft please, we obviously just need a few more datacenters built near the polar ice sheets and 2 or 3 more evaporating all the water in the main rivers of the world. It's easy. We are almost there for making it work for something blobnom
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CM Harrington
CM Harrington
@octothorpe@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft @jon_alper leftpad.js
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mrflash818
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@mrflash818@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft "Strange game. The only winning move is not to play." -- Wargames (1983) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames
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Darkoneko
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@darkoneko@shelter.moe replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft ah, yes. Vibe coding...
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Tormod
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@airwhale@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft

Word for Windows 3.11 could cycle between UPPERCASE, lowercase and Title Case of selected text by hitting Shift-F3

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Alyssa Voronin
Alyssa Voronin
@TranshumanBlues@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft And he's still paying $200/mo. for it. What a rube.
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Will Wasley
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@will@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft all things that could be done with 10-15 line shell script for free.
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Elias
Elias
@eliasr@social.librem.one replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft who are these people? Why don't they just hit alt+U in emacs?
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🇺🇦🇪🇺 cweickhmann
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@cweickhmann@qoto.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Wait, upper casing text with gpt-4-mini is still ludicrous.
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William B Peckham
William B Peckham
@wbpeckham@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft WHY are they using Automated Incompetence when they have normal human incompetence in such abundance?
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Dr Know
Dr Know
@DrKnow@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft it's the democratization of programming, we program, they use the machine to program. Efficient it is not. Hence cheap it is not.
The cost, the correctness, and the general adversarial nature of people against the slop, are the main back-pressures.
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Egon Willigh☮gen 🟥
Egon Willigh☮gen 🟥
@egonw@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft financial survival of the fittest
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@PetterOfCats@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft wow I’ve done these exact things myself with JS and Python. Took me like 2 min to set up and still works. I’ve literally saved millions! I should start charging people so much more for my “-A” services.
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Lianna
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@lolaandersun@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
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Micdan :computerfairies:
Micdan :computerfairies:
@micdan5@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft paying an Onlyfans subscription is better than asking AI for uppercase text ._.
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Ryek Darkener
Ryek Darkener
@_RyekDarkener_@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft

I think the things you mentioned can easily be done wit a locally installed LLM. One time invest between 1k$ and 2.5k$. For up to 10 years runtime with Linux. Or with a normal browser. So what are you paying the remaining $200 for? ;)

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Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Is his last question rhetorical?
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Tim Clevenger :donor:
Tim Clevenger :donor:
@timjclevenger@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft I watched a presentation from a SIEM vendor where they were testing various LLMs for decoding BASE64 text in Powershell commands. The best one they found was 97% accurate but the other 3% of the time it made up text completely different from the input text. When I suggested that a Commodore 64 could do it 100% of the time for a millionth the cost, he said that they're looking forward to the LLM cost going down sometime in the future. 🤷‍♂️
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Dustin
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@digitalkrampus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft I can do all that in VI
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Kim
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@kim@vk5fj.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft sounds like the new lambda functions server less thing...
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Sabrina Web :privacypride: 📎
Sabrina Web :privacypride: 📎
@sabrinaweb71@sociale.network replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft this reminds me of a joke.

A guy sees a market stall selling apple seeds. Curious, he asks the seller what those seeds are for.
- Eating apple seeds will make you smarter. Want to give it a try?
- Yes please, give me two of them. How much is that?
- $50 each.
He buys two seeds and eats them, then says:
- With $100 I could have bought a lot of apples, with a lot of seeds...
- See? It worked, you're smarter now.
- Indeed. Two more seeds, please.

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Javed A. Butt
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@javedAB@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft AI is incredibly powerful, but there's a huge gap between the hype and reality. Social media is full of 'gurus' promising this will make you rich with revolutionary game-changing results. Meanwhile, anyone who can do simple math looks at the pricing: a million input/output tokens costs [X amount]. Then you track your actual usage and think: 'Wait, what? I'm burning through tokens that fast?'

Maybe these AI gurus have overlooked a few things about the economics?

#AI#OpenAI#APIcosts

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Sam Chavez 🌈🌱🏜️
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@rootschange@federate.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft hear me out…you could also…wait for it…pay a human to do the exact same work. Wow what a concept!
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Rodrigo Dias
Rodrigo Dias
@rgo@masto.pt replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago

Using GPT-4 to uppercase text is like hiring a chef to make toast.

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Nicole Göbel
Nicole Göbel
@nicolegoebel@digitalcourage.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft why didn't they use a local model?!! 😵‍💫
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Toni Aittoniemi
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Idiot computing
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Dusty
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@d1@autistics.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft and I was gobsmacked when I learned there is a "not" library you can pull in in npm. Equivalent to the not-operator language built-in. This is next level. I'm glad they're getting their money's worth at a mere $200/mo
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Sarah, The Website Therapist
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@twt@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft use VI for that, not AI
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Pxl Phile
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@ppxl@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft not going to tell someone stupid because they don't know stuff.

But avoiding to learn programming to do a rather simple transformation of uppercasing, Json formatting, etc it shows signs that the dumbification of people by AI has begun.

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Tim Chase
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@gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft

uSiNg gPt tO UpPeRcAsE TeXt iS A FaNtAsTiC IdEa!

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Chris
@ChrisKillat@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft I let A.I. determine all my major life decisions now... 💩

Took all but a month to make me a multi quadrillionaire... 😏

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Magnus Ahltorp
Magnus Ahltorp
@ahltorp@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Why did they do the analysis manually? It seems more in line with their beliefs to make the chatbot do the analysis.
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rfnix
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@rfnix@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft leftpad but AI lol
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Demiguise 🇮🇱
Demiguise 🇮🇱
@demiguise@linuxrocks.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Perl can uppercase text... even upoercase only the first letter.

https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/uc

https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/ucfirst

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Open Ulysses
Open Ulysses
@openulysses@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Why not add your TechHub profile to our crazy project?
See who's already there: https://ko-fi.com/Post/Chapter-I-1-Z8Z11J6H59
More info: https://ko-fi.com/Post/How-to-Add-a-Link-T6T21GPKLS
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Templaillo Ahi
Templaillo Ahi
@TemplailloAhi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft They're *this* 🤏 close to getting it but no dice.
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Pauchu
@Pauchu@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft "I ended up moving it to o4-mini" How about like, idk, just using a script or smth? Some actual programming? That's free. Especially phone numbers, you can literally just regex that, you don't even have to write the expression, just google it.
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@maunzCache@ruhr.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft if that is true, there is a whole new level of problems conpanies need to fix. "i cannot use this software because its not company approved so lets use ai"
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Dentaku (Thomas Renger)
Dentaku (Thomas Renger)
@dentaku@fnordon.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft They're *still* doing it, just with a cheaper model now.
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Erebus
Erebus
@Erebus_Amauro@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft $200 a month for uppercasing things... and he thinks its a good deal? Jesus fucking christ. I don't know what to say.
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R
@foo__@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft at least the person is not far from being lucid with "Am I an idiot"
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James Gilbert
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@jgrg@mstdn.science replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft Such power efficiency.
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Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPE
Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
@TimWardCam@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
@nixCraft People pay MONEY to be lied to??
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@Bredroll@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 months ago
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