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@smallcircles@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@nicol

> if the challenge of knowing what Fediverse Apps implement which bit of the spec is a blocker, is there a standard way to declare which bits of the spec an app is conformant in?

The #ActivityPub #FEP process keeps a list of implementations, in each of its documents. The FEDERATION.md was once introduced as "something to start with before going more complex wrt introspection", a temporary bandaid to bring improvement. Its adoption and use, and later its description as a recommended practice are going very slow though. Still, a very useful practice, compared to lacking such doc and perusing foreign codebases for the info.

> does the Fediverse need a democratic membership org that funds core maintenance of FEP and pays for some of the core community maintainers to keep looking after the ecosystem.

That might be a good solution. For part of a much bigger problem. No #funding bakes bread yet.

I addressed this with @nlnet in the past, and intend to bring it up again next week.

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@smallcircles@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@nicol @nlnet

It is the right ask though. The ask is: What are ALL the moving gears that make sustainable #FOSS (i.e. #SOSS) be produced, and in an entire healthy technology ecosystem at that.

My investigation around commons based social dynamics started when I had basically given up "trying to herd cats" at #SocialHub where it was already clear that most people didn't much beyond the interest for their own #ActivityPub project, to mingle in the discussions. I mentioned at the time in various thread "Do you want 'community-of-action' or just a mere discussion forum. But even for those questions there's hardly anyone interested.

I knew all this already from my time facilitating Humane Tech Community - now dormant, waiting for value at https://community.humanetech.com - but needed to more deeply understand.

The notion of #FSDL in its double meaning of #FreeSoftware development lifecycle, and #Fediverse solution delivery lifecycle rose from there, but also the need for a new adoption model.

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@smallcircles@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

Why #Discourse is NOT going closed-source in an age of #AI #LLM ..

https://blog.discourse.org/2026/04/discourse-is-not-going-closed-source/

#SX #SocialCoding #SOSS #FOSS

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@smallcircles@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@abeorch @gary

Totally. I am myself as technical person stuck in Yunohost because of all kinds of upgrade issues. The "bring together" on a holistic basis is exactly what I do applied research on with Social experience design i.e. #SX.

In the case of #FOSS that means transitioning (or rather evolving) towards #SOSS. And considering the entire #FSDL, which either stands for #FreeSoftware development lifecycle. Or for #Fediverse solution delivery lifecycle.

Under SX software development involves service development, delivery, and exchange. Within commons based ecosystems and across them, to the broader public.

In SOSS + FSDL it is natural that you try to attract a #UX designer if you need one and not just sighed "If only a UX designer became a contributor", which I've often seen people do.

https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#sustainable-open-social-systems

Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
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@smallcircles@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@abeorch @gary

Totally. I am myself as technical person stuck in Yunohost because of all kinds of upgrade issues. The "bring together" on a holistic basis is exactly what I do applied research on with Social experience design i.e. #SX.

In the case of #FOSS that means transitioning (or rather evolving) towards #SOSS. And considering the entire #FSDL, which either stands for #FreeSoftware development lifecycle. Or for #Fediverse solution delivery lifecycle.

Under SX software development involves service development, delivery, and exchange. Within commons based ecosystems and across them, to the broader public.

In SOSS + FSDL it is natural that you try to attract a #UX designer if you need one and not just sighed "If only a UX designer became a contributor", which I've often seen people do.

https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#sustainable-open-social-systems

Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
Transition from FOSS project to SOSS initiative. Sustainable open social software, to systems, to services, to solutions. Via the Free software development lifecycle (FSDL).
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@smallcircles@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

#ThoughtProvoker blobhyperthink

@laurenshof wrote fabulous reports analysing our #SocialWeb and sadly this included raging techno-ideological #ProtocolWars too. How can we turn that to #Progress?

So much friction and heat in the raging discussions #ActivityPub vs. #ATProto 😭

🔮 What is *much* more relevant in #Bluesky vs AP is WHY ❔ Bluesky + ATProto gets the bigger uptake, despite compromising on #moral and #ethical values and #principles we hold dear.

Knowing the answers to that is where #opportunity for strategic action comes from. And subsequently following what you may call #FocusedPragmatism instead of just 'wild-coding' the chaotic #fedi with countless independent, uncoordinated "Show, don't tells" of yet more code to shove onto the #BigBallOfMud that fediverse-we-have increasingly represents.

#ActivityPubAPI provides such Opportunity.

To revive on a *greenfield basis* doing #Protocol design and adopt lessons-learned from APv1 #Microbloggosphere vs. #Atmosphere.

#SX

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@smallcircles@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

#ThoughtProvoker 🤔

For those who chimed in to join the #brainstorming and want to be nerdsniped potentially you may ponder that..

♟️ #Chess is a great example of an #EmergentSystem.

🌱 Recipe for #Emergence of chess #game

- [chess ingredients here]

And then to continue onwards and think how the relationship is between #FOSS individuals who give their all-in best-efforts for world improvement, make real sacrifices, and who gift their 2 cts with best-intentions, still are faced with uncomfortable questions.

To turn that into solution-orientation we must find a good recipe, and note down #recipe ingredients..

🌱 Recipe for Sustainable open social systems i.e. #SOSS

- [sustainable FOSS ingredients here]

Hint / rule: Max. ingredients is 10.

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116316524763055082

@helge Recipe support on the #ActivityPub fediverse?

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